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Friday, 22 July 2016

Abel Brereton’s Children



Rosemary Jewers 8th May 2016


I've found there's a lot of confusion regarding the children from Abel Brereton’s two marriages, therefore having research it for others, I thought this would be the ideal place to record some of the baptisms and deaths.

The children listed are from his first marriage to Anne Rouse and from his second marriage to his cousin Elizabeth Lloyd. All baptisms and deaths are taken from the Brinton Archdeacons Transcripts. The only two deaths not taken from the A T's are of his son and daughter who died in Canada.
1774 “August 8th Bridget the daughter of Abel Brereton and Anne (late Rouse) his wife was baptized.”

1785 “23rd October Anne the daughter of Abel and Anne (late Rouse) his Wife was baptized.” Ann (Anne) married William Copland - on her gravestone and marriage certificate she was named as Ann. The Canadian gravestone gives her age as 48 and her death as 4th Jan 1835, making a discrepancy of 1 to 2 years. When the family travelled to Canada via New York, the passenger list shows her age as 48 years. The Archdeacons Transcripts are not complete as some years are missing, but the years from 1785 to 1787 are complete and they indicated that Abel and Anne had no further children baptised until 1787 when their son John was baptised at Brinton.

In 1787 Abel and Anne Rouse had a son John who was baptised at Brinton.

In 1789 Abel Brett Brereton was baptised, he was the son of Abel Brereton and Anne Rouse.

On 14th Nov. 1789 Abel Brett Brereton was buried at Brinton.

1792 to Easter 1793 Mary Brett Brereton was baptised, she was the daughter of Abel and Anne Rouse.

1794 baptism on 27th August of Sarah Margaretta daughter of Abel Brereton and his wife Anne Rouse.

On Sept 10th 1794 Sarah Margaretta Brereton was buried.

Abel’s first wife, Ann Rouse died in 1795. “1795 Jan 31st Mrs Abel Brereton was buried”.

In 1796 he married his cousin Elizabeth Lloyd.

Abel Brereton and Elizabeth Lloyd were married at Brinton on 6th December 1796.

1798 “16th Sept. Elizabeth the daughter of Abel Brereton and Elizabeth (late Lloyd spinster) his wife was baptized.”

1799 “October 13th Cloudesly Shovell the son of Abel Brereton and Elizabeth (late Lloyd spinster his wife was baptized”. I have double checked this spelling in the A T’s. Over the years the family did change the spelling between Cloudesley, Cloudesly and Cloudsley and Shovell and Shovel. Cloudesly Brereton travelled to Canada and married there. He was in touch with and saw his Copland nephews, the children of his half sister, Ann. Cloudesly’s daughter married her cousin William Copland. On Cloudesly's Canadian grave, his name has been written as "Cloudsley Shovel Brereton". The spelling of Cloudesly is a different and Shovell only has one L. He died "March 4th 1873".

1802 May 2nd Margaret the daughter of Abel Brereton and Elizabeth (late Lloyd spinster) his wife was baptised

1803 burial Oct 14th John son of Abel and Anne Rouse was buried (aged16). NOTE, this was Abel and Anne Rouse’s son.

1806 marriage Brinton Oct 2nd William Copland of the Parish of Sharrington single man and Ann Brereton of this Parish... Witnessed by John Brereton Mary Seppings JD Copland Mary Hewitt

I have checked to the end of the Archdeacons Transcripts, I could find no further children mentioned that were born to Abel and Elizabeth.

A further snippet regarding Cloudesly's son.

While I was looking into the life of Cloudesly Shovell Brereton and the Copland family in Canada, Faye Brereton Goodwin kindly offered to do some investigating on her side of the Atlantic. She highlighted the fact that Doctor William Brereton, son of Cloudesly and his wife Charlotte Fisher, had married an Anne Marie Lount. Faye knew that I had been reading about the Upper Canada rebellion, apparently a Samuel Lount had been hanged in 1838 for his part in the uprising. Faye wondered if he could be related to the wife of Dr William Brereton. She wrote "Samuel Lount became a woodsman – and worked with his brother in the survey business. He became an elected member of the Upper Canada Legislature for Simcoe County (which included both East and West Gwillimbury) ."

After a little searching I found that this Samuel Lount had a brother Gabriel, and he had a son Hiram Lount. Hiram had a daughter, Anne Marie who married Dr William Brereton.

Link to the Copland family page.

If you have enjoyed reading this article you might consider donating to www.fosalm.org which will help restore St Andrew's Church Little Massingham. This church has been very important to the Brereton family.

Many thanks to Faye Brereton Goodwin

William Copland and Ann Brereton of Norfolk and Canada

Rosemary Jewers 2016

Many Brereton family trees, mention that a William Copland married an Ann (Anne) Brereton of Brinton. Ann Brereton, (1785–1835) was the daughter of Abel Brereton and his first wife Ann (Anne) Rouse. Ann and William married in 1806 at St. Andrew’s Church, Brinton. One witness was John Brereton, Ann’s uncle.

Ann’s father Abel, was the younger twin brother of John Brereton of Brinton Hall, my 3 x great grandfather. Robert Maitland Brereton’s book, records that Abel Brereton and Ann Rouse had seven children who all died issue less. I have found that their daughter Ann, aged 21 married a William Copland and had at least four children, and grandchildren.

Children of William and Ann Copland

Ann Copland b. 1807

Baptism Date for William Copland 1808. On 30th April 1884 William Copland married his cousin Jane Margaret Brereton, (Madge) daughter of Cloudesly Shovell Brereton and Charlotte Fisher. William was 68 and she was 27. William died on 8th March 1888, Santa Barbara California. Having searched many records I am convinced that William was not truthful about his age at the time of his marriage to his cousin, Jane Margaret (Madge) Brereton. He was probably 76 at the time of this marriage.

Baptism Date for Elizabeth Copland 1810. Death 12 July, 1871: Montréal (Unitarian Messiah), Québec. Married J. J. Evans: Had issue

Baptism Date for Charles 1811 he had issue

Baptism Date for John Brereton Copland 1815

The register for the baptisms indicates they took place in a Congregational church. The baptism records of the children show that the family were living in Saxthorpe, Norfolk and later they were living at Hindringham, Norfolk.

Abel’s first wife, Ann Rouse died in 1795. In 1796 he married his cousin Elizabeth Lloyd. Elizabeth was the sister of Anna Margaretta Lloyd who had married John Brereton, elder twin of Abel. Therefore the twin brothers, John and Abel both married their Lloyd cousins. Robert Maitland mentions that a Margaret (daughter of Abel and Elizabeth married William Copland of Canada) this I have found not to be true. Information taken from Archdeacon’s Transcripts.

Abel and Elizabeth Lloyd did have a son Cloudesly Shovel Brereton, he also went to live in Canada. I will write about him in another section, he is well documented on other Brereton websites. Within the Brereton family there were many spellings of the name Cloudesley Shovell. Sometimes the name was written as Cloudesly, Cloudsley or Cloudesley and Shovel or Shovell.

It appears that William Copland (Sen) was born or baptised in Norwich (1783–1862) he died on 22 Mar, 1862 in Toronto, Ontario. William’s parents John D. Copland and Elizabeth lived at Great Witchingham, Norfolk. Photos found on Ancestry family trees, indicate that they may have lived at Great Witchingham Hall - now owned by the Bernard Matthews company. Although I found a ship’s passenger list for the Copland family who were travelling to New York on the ‘Meteor’, having departed from London, they arrived on 26th June 1834. It was obviously not William Copland Senior's first crossing of the Atlantic, because he had set up a brewery in Toronto in 1830.

William 51 (Sen) William (Jr) 24 (slight change of age), Charles 22, John 19, Ann 48, Elizabeth 23. There was no mention of Ann born 1807.

As mentioned above, William Copland (Sen) was living in Canada in 1830, he was the owner of a brewery in Yonge Street, Toranto. The link that follows gives a short insight into the life and background of William (Sen) and his son, William Copland Jn. who took over running the brewery. Scroll down the page to see the advert and short text.

In 1837, (after his wife Ann had died) William Copland and his sons were caught up in the Rebellion in Upper Canada. He had been writing detailed letters to friends about the uprising. In 1838 the letters were edited into a publication. He mentions his sons' uncle, Cloudesly who also became involved in the fighting.

Upper Canada link
https://archive.org/stream/narrativeofearly00copl#page/1/mode/1up

Ann Copland nee Brereton died 4th Jan 1835 Toronto, ON Canada. William Copland (Sen) married Caroline Sewers in 1836 (1795–1886) I found the following about Caroline Sewers. she was born about 1795, her father was Philip and her mother was Elizabeth. Caroline married William Copland on September 6, 1836, in Toronto, Ontario. She died on March 27, 1886, at the age of 91. I found no evidence that they had children.

Find the Copland grave.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=pv&GRid=107475434&PIpi=77361157

The Copland brewery, further reading: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ixp3CQAAQBAJ&pg=PT68&dq=toronto+copland&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjStIGm3NjoAhUqQEEAHUyXBYgQ6AEIOTAC#v=onepage&q=toronto%20copland&f=false

Link to Abel Brereton's children.

If you have enjoyed reading this article you might consider donating to www.fosalm.org which will help restore St Andrew's Church Little Massingham. This church has been very important to the Brereton family.